Who the fuck cheats in a dead game.

migalski says

As much as id want to know who it/they are like everyone, nothing is making him tell us who it is, it's his choice. He should tell us but not everyone does the right thing all the time. You can't force someone to tell you something they don't want to right or wrong. And if he wasn't sorry, why would he waste his time with the crap people are giving him? He will never be able to play competitive ns2 again so what would be the point? If he does decide to tell the rest of the community, great, less hackers, if he doesn't? Well the person will get caught eventually or stop playing at some point. If the dude is just being attacked by everyone for saying sorry and goodbye why would he ever even bother to tell us, everyone just treated him like shit for a choice he made, not everyone has the balls to admit they hacked and then talk about it knowing their gonna get ripped on, i say just leave the man alone. R.I.P.

He gets what he deserves for cheating, especially if you take a look at the ausns2 situation. After all he STILL behaves like a cunt. He doesn't want to say who was getting him the cheats? Why would he even say someone was doing it when he doesn't give the name anyway? Just to stir up some more drama? All this he does here makes him deserve the hate of the community, everything else would be stupid. Simply saying good bye and sorry would have been enough. No, instead he creates a LOT of drama all around him, justifying whatever happened with the ausn2 guys, saying he has a name of someone else and so on.
He didn't admit, he was cought.
He promised he'd answer questions, he doesn't.
He's getting ripped on - he bitches back
This "man" deserves no leaving-alone.

RIP

schu says

Just to clear something up. Everyone on Gnarculepsy found out about this at the same time everyone else did. Trademark stated there are others in the NS2 community using these chams. I tried to get information out of him and got some clues to the person.

He said it was a NA player.
He has never been on a team with him.
He isn't a Div 1 player.
He is better than a div 3 player.
He played on a team last season.

The only team from NA that was division 2 was The Leftovers.
Obviously this doesn't point to a person, or it could all be lied about. I have no idea.

Gnarculepsy had no involvement with this. I'm trying to figure out who this guy is as well. Cheating is never acceptable. Whether on a pub/pug/scrim, cheating should always be a perm ban from NSL.

As a competitive NS2 player I value skill with strategy to a high degree. I believe having the game knowledge to pre-fire around corners is a skill acquired over time and with much experience. Having a wallhack tell you when to prefire and when not to is absolutely degrading to anyone who wants to improve their own abilities within this game.

To sum this up.

I have no idea who this guy is who gave trademark this hack.
Gnarc had no involvement - we found out at the same time everyone else did.
Hacking is hacking - NSL ban

wait, if this is true, that means I played on TWO teams that cheated in division 5. Man my credibility is destroyed. Or was it me? Do those hacks work from the command chair?

By not "betraying" a known cheat and friend who has in effect caused you to lose all reputation in a game in which you have put in many long hours you effectively betray everyone who ever associated with you. Anyone who has ever stood up for you or has even considered you as their friend will now always have this event causing people to ask "maybe he was *that* friend of Trademarks".

All you have done with this act is create a witch hunt whereby people will attempt to cross-reference every single thing you have said in some kind of Sherlock Holmes style game. Except in this game every suspect will be any 'friend' you have had in the community. If you think about it, that will also make them victims of your silence.

If nothing else you owe it to them.

theloneknight says

By not "betraying" a known cheat and friend who has in effect caused you to lose all reputation in a game in which you have put in many long hours you effectively betray everyone who ever associated with you. Anyone who has ever stood up for you or has even considered you as their friend will now always have this event causing people to ask "maybe he was *that* friend of Trademarks".

All you have done with this act is create a witch hunt whereby people will attempt to cross-reference every single thing you have said in some kind of Sherlock Holmes style game. Except in this game every suspect will be any 'friend' you have had in the community. If you think about it, that will also make them victims of your silence.

If nothing else you owe it to them.

i am not hear to point fingers at anyone they have made their choice to do what they do

Simba says

schu says

Just to clear something up. Everyone on Gnarculepsy found out about this at the same time everyone else did. Trademark stated there are others in the NS2 community using these chams. I tried to get information out of him and got some clues to the person.

He said it was a NA player.
He has never been on a team with him.
He isn't a Div 1 player.
He is better than a div 3 player.
He played on a team last season.

The only team from NA that was division 2 was The Leftovers.
Obviously this doesn't point to a person, or it could all be lied about. I have no idea.

Gnarculepsy had no involvement with this. I'm trying to figure out who this guy is as well. Cheating is never acceptable. Whether on a pub/pug/scrim, cheating should always be a perm ban from NSL.

As a competitive NS2 player I value skill with strategy to a high degree. I believe having the game knowledge to pre-fire around corners is a skill acquired over time and with much experience. Having a wallhack tell you when to prefire and when not to is absolutely degrading to anyone who wants to improve their own abilities within this game.

To sum this up.

I have no idea who this guy is who gave trademark this hack.
Gnarc had no involvement - we found out at the same time everyone else did.
Hacking is hacking - NSL ban

wait, if this is true, that means I played on TWO teams that cheated in division 5. Man my credibility is destroyed. Or was it me? Do those hacks work from the command chair?

Do you mean s5? no one on gnarc or gnarc lite cheated during season 5

as i stated believe it or not your choice,the "cheating" happened in the last 2 weeks in a pub and 2 pugs ,hence the vac ban from yesterday. If i did cheat during the season the vac would of came much sooner than that .I have tryed contacting you on steam but you have blocked me so oh well i suppose .

Simba says

schu says

Just to clear something up. Everyone on Gnarculepsy found out about this at the same time everyone else did. Trademark stated there are others in the NS2 community using these chams. I tried to get information out of him and got some clues to the person.

He said it was a NA player.
He has never been on a team with him.
He isn't a Div 1 player.
He is better than a div 3 player.
He played on a team last season.

The only team from NA that was division 2 was The Leftovers.
Obviously this doesn't point to a person, or it could all be lied about. I have no idea.

Gnarculepsy had no involvement with this. I'm trying to figure out who this guy is as well. Cheating is never acceptable. Whether on a pub/pug/scrim, cheating should always be a perm ban from NSL.

As a competitive NS2 player I value skill with strategy to a high degree. I believe having the game knowledge to pre-fire around corners is a skill acquired over time and with much experience. Having a wallhack tell you when to prefire and when not to is absolutely degrading to anyone who wants to improve their own abilities within this game.

To sum this up.

I have no idea who this guy is who gave trademark this hack.
Gnarc had no involvement - we found out at the same time everyone else did.
Hacking is hacking - NSL ban

wait, if this is true, that means I played on TWO teams that cheated in division 5. Man my credibility is destroyed. Or was it me? Do those hacks work from the command chair?

Do you mean s5? no one on gnarc or gnarc lite cheated during season 5

as i stated believe it or not your choice,the "cheating" happened in the last 2 weeks in a pub and 2 pugs ,hence the vac ban from yesterday. If i did cheat during the season the vac would of came much sooner than that .I have tryed contacting you on steam but you have blocked me so oh well i suppose . as this thread gets longer and people claim what they want about what i did the original facts from op wheather you believe them or not get stretched out of context of what was true so it ended from cheated in a pug and a pub to cheated all season.

You realize that nobody can trust anything you say, right? You say VAC "took two weeks", however you could have been using it for months and just now got your VAC. If it took two weeks, why couldn't it have taken two months? Could be lying to protect Gnarcolepsy Light seeing as they won Div 1 in S5.

Honestly, Trademark should be permanently banned from NS2 and the NSL website unless he provides the names and evidence of the people involved in cheating. It pisses me off because while people gathered in mumble to talk to trade about his cheating I brought up a point that many people probably immediately thought of me as the person who would have provided Trade with the cheats. Many of the people in the channel said they thought of me first as a suspect. I think that is really fucked up considering I have played hard and long since alpha helping to start the competitive community and have always passionately hated cheaters. I was very involved with Tempest and ns2bans.com in catching cheaters and got multiple people banned. This is how Trademark wants to repay and show respect to his teammates. The fact he isn't giving the names is a deep insult to anyone who has ever played on a team with him.

Zefram, don't make this a slap on the wrist issue in a small community with a game that is near death. Any cheating should be a permanent ban and it should be of the highest priority to weed out these fucks who think it's okay to cheat.

Anyone who has ever been cheated against knows how it feels and how annoying it is to play against a person who is cheating. I literally want to murder those people in real life I get so angry. It's such an immature and cowardly thing to do.

If you really want to clear your name then give us the names of the alleged cheaters. Otherwise this thread is just a huge insult to all of the people who thought you were their friend on Gnarcolepsy.

adhd says

Honestly, Trademark should be permanently banned from NS2 and the NSL website unless he provides the names and evidence of the people involved in cheating. It pisses me off because while people gathered in mumble to talk to trade about his cheating I brought up a point that many people probably immediately thought of me as the person who would have provided Trade with the cheats. Many of the people in the channel said they thought of me first as a suspect. I think that is really fucked up considering I have played hard and long since alpha helping to start the competitive community and have always passionately hated cheaters. I was very involved with Tempest and ns2bans.com in catching cheaters and got multiple people banned. This is how Trademark wants to repay and show respect to his teammates. The fact he isn't giving the names is a deep insult to anyone who has ever played on a team with him.

Zefram, don't make this a slap on the wrist issue in a small community with a game that is near death. Any cheating should be a permanent ban and it should be of the highest priority to weed out these fucks who think it's okay to cheat.

Anyone who has ever been cheated against knows how it feels and how annoying it is to play against a person who is cheating. I literally want to murder those people in real life I get so angry. It's such an immature and cowardly thing to do.

If you really want to clear your name then give us the names of the alleged cheaters. Otherwise this thread is just a huge insult to all of the people who thought you were their friend on Gnarcolepsy.

the fact that you posted this shows how selfish of a person you are you want me banned solely for the reason of saving your name from what ever rumors your paranoid about. as you said yesterday when everyone was talking about it "i hate cheaters because they act good because they cheat,but you didn't do that so its different" also i would like to point yesterday when i was talking to everyone in mumble you were the only one who brought that people might accuse you of it and you only no one else in that channel mentioned it at all.

w00t says

Trademark says

Nezza has multiple accounts with vacs GG enjoy your life

So do you GG enjoy your life.

and you have 2 on your steam account as well and your sitting here berating me about mine pls get the fuck out


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018851077

Trademark says

w00t says

Trademark says

Nezza has multiple accounts with vacs GG enjoy your life

So do you GG enjoy your life.

and you have 2 on your steam account as well and your sitting here berating me about mine pls get the fuck out


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018851077

you said it was ok for us to berade you here, you made this post and said berade me here and not on steam. YOU brought this to yourself. You god damn retard.

Tico says

Trademark says

w00t says

Trademark says

Nezza has multiple accounts with vacs GG enjoy your life

So do you GG enjoy your life.

and you have 2 on your steam account as well and your sitting here berating me about mine pls get the fuck out


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018851077

you said it was ok for us to berade you here, you made this post and said berade me here and not on steam. YOU brought this to yourself. You god damn retard.

the fact that he is calling me out for berating another cheater while i "cheated". And he is sitting here with 2 vacs on account is hypocritical. He also called me out for being a hypocrite as well !

Tired of all this shit the person that did give me it to me is ZEBROE i got it from him a couple weeks ago

you guys ask me why I cover his name he isn't a good guy,the fact that you guys would sit here and turn on each other and accuse your friends of a long time of cheating is a huge joke this kid is a straight up shit lord why i trusted him? idk i am dumb. I was dumb wanting to see how it worked or what it would do for me just to get vacced some odd days after using it. The guy has already taken alot of shit from alot of people. And no longer played this game so what was the point? sitting here listening to friends call out other people that they enjoyed playing with "oh i bet its ......." and teammates asking each if they were cheating. people are willing to sit here and turn on each at the first chance you get weather it be for a selfish reason or just to have a reason to call him a cheater because he is better than you.


RIP
GLHF

Remember... It's beraTe with a capital T for Trademark. Let's keep this civil though. I honestly still don't understand the purpose of this thread.

adhd says

Honestly, Trademark should be permanently banned from NS2 and the NSL website unless he provides the names and evidence of the people involved in cheating. It pisses me off because while people gathered in mumble to talk to trade about his cheating I brought up a point that many people probably immediately thought of me as the person who would have provided Trade with the cheats. Many of the people in the channel said they thought of me first as a suspect. I think that is really fucked up considering I have played hard and long since alpha helping to start the competitive community and have always passionately hated cheaters. I was very involved with Tempest and ns2bans.com in catching cheaters and got multiple people banned. This is how Trademark wants to repay and show respect to his teammates. The fact he isn't giving the names is a deep insult to anyone who has ever played on a team with him.

Zefram, don't make this a slap on the wrist issue in a small community with a game that is near death. Any cheating should be a permanent ban and it should be of the highest priority to weed out these fucks who think it's okay to cheat.

I don't know if you're being serious or trolling, because not even a day ago, you advise Trademark to lie and just say the VAC ban was for another game. No one in that mumble seems particularly outraged about what's going on and even, if just out of sheer curiosity, seem to be encouraging it.

http://youtu.be/9jUl8fni_gA

Trademark says

Tired of all this shit the person that did give me it to me is ZEBROE i got it from him a couple weeks ago

You realize has has like 4-5 VAC bans between two accounts, right? Lol. Way to go. Sounds like you guys are good together.

We should host a VAC-ban pageant.

Trademark says

bonage says

couple of questions.

1. Why?

2. What hacks were you actually using?

3. If you know of others using them in the NA community - why not name them so they can be investigated. You literally have nothing to lose at this point.

1. i was told "a safe way" to try them about 2 weeks ago tried it in 2 pugs and a pub no matches or anything,why did i try to see if it made be better but tbh it didnt make me any better than what i was already at

2.chams

3.becuase this person is a good guy

Trademark says

Tired of all this shit the person that did give me it to me is ZEBROE i got it from him a couple weeks ago

you guys ask me why I cover his name he isn't a good guy,the fact that you guys would sit here and turn on each other and accuse your friends of a long time of cheating is a huge joke this kid is a straight up shit lord why i trusted him? idk i am dumb. I was dumb wanting to see how it worked or what it would do for me just to get vacced some odd days after using it. The guy has already taken alot of shit from alot of people. And no longer played this game so what was the point? sitting here listening to friends call out other people that they enjoyed playing with "oh i bet its ......." and teammates asking each if they were cheating. people are willing to sit here and turn on each at the first chance you get weather it be for a selfish reason or just to have a reason to call him a cheater because he is better than you.


RIP
GLHF

So he zebroe a good guy or not?

Are we done yet? Please lock this thread and move on, everyone.

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I don't know if you're being serious or trolling, because not even a day ago, you advise Trademark to lie and just say the VAC ban was for another game. No one in that mumble seems particularly outraged about what's going on and even, if just out of sheer curiosity, seem to be encouraging it.

http://www.twitch.tv/trademark___/b/614321689
[/quote]

Well to be fair I wasn't as angry as I am now, so thats why it might appear that way to you buddy. Feel free to fabricate whatever delusional bullshit you want in your mind about me encouraging trade to cheat. I never told him to lie about cheating in another game. He already admitted to cheating in NS2 and posted on these forums when I asked him why he didn't just claim to cheat in another game. Your assumption / accusation makes no sense but feel free to be an asshole. I was simply pointing out that trade was an idiot for telling everyone he cheated in NS2. It makes everyone who knows him look bad.

I'm sure you are loving this though Zefram. I'm sure the whole situation makes you feel great about yourself and this lovely community that you have helped to cultivate. You get a kick out of slapping retards on the wrist for doing the worst offense in gaming.

Enjoy the death of NS2. This will be the beginning of the end for many players.

The beginning of the end? lol?

This really isn't any different than Eissfeldt's situation. TBH that was probably worse and the community wanted him to go completely unpunished.

adhd says

Enjoy the death of NS2. This will be the beginning of the end for many players.

lol i dont think many people are going to loose sleep over trademark being banned if thats what ure suggesting. If anything i think this can be a new beginning of ns2...people can come back to this game now that the toxic hypocrite trademark is gone XD

the funniest thing about this whole thing trademark, is that i actually knew who told you all along. but it was hilarious watching you avoid the question and actually try to hackusate me whenever i asked you.

GORGEous says

The beginning of the end? lol?

This really isn't any different than Eissfeldt's situation. TBH that was probably worse and the community wanted him to go completely unpunished.

The games dead regardless of trade. Trade has nothing to do with the end of NS2... so you miss my point.

beaan says

adhd says

Enjoy the death of NS2. This will be the beginning of the end for many players.

lol i dont think many people are going to loose sleep over trademark being banned if thats what ure suggesting. If anything i think this can be a new beginning of ns2...people can come back to this game now that the toxic hypocrite trademark is gone XD

the funniest thing about this whole thing trademark, is that i actually knew who told you all along. but it was hilarious watching you avoid the question and actually try to hackusate me whenever i asked you.

your making me shit my pants please stop

Oh will you just fuck off already.

This is really disappointing.

I will say that I noticed no difference in Trade's play last season when we did drills and what I saw during scrims and matches. I unfortunately haven't had time to do any drills the last month or so, so I can't really comment on his play then.

Also I hear there's a new hack out, if you type SWALKMODE in console you get pro viewmodels.

Wtf i thought it was someone from titos who gave the cheats?

*drama try n1*

chams are pretty detected, so if he used them longer probably wouldve gotten banned earlier, but noone knows for sure, except himself.
ps never trust zebroe with 80 vac bans,