I have been a fortunate man. Good looking, white, intelligent, funny, english, rich, tall, slim but toned, healthy, white, tall, intelligent, good looking, handsome, funny and intelligent. But every now and then I need a reminder of how fortunate I am by causing myself immense pain. That source of pain is lag in NS.
Until recently I was experiencing a fair amount of fps lag (despite my connection improving), and after reading a passing comment on here about ati cards and fps lag, I assumed it was just the ati card I was running. A few weeks back I decided the pain of fps lag was getting a little much. Not a huge amount too much, but just a smidge over the optimal amount of pain needed for me to really appreciated being a tall handsome white intelligent comedian CEO cassonova winner. So I decided I would upgrade my card, but stick with ati. So that the fps lag would abate a smidge, but no more than a smidge.

I upgraded from a 4850 to a 5770. And the lag. Has gotten worse. Much worse. I've gone from having bad maps to having completely unplayable parts of the map where the game literally turns into a slideshow, and the rest of the time I can expect frequent really really choppy fps drops. Unplayably fucking irritating and absolutely impossible to aim with.

Can someone tell me exactly why ATI cards can't run a decade old game with stable fps, what I could possibly do to alleviate the problem short of buying an nvidea card, and comment on your feelings surrounding the fact that i am the 3rd best fade in europe despite not being able to see the game i'm playing, my beautiful eyes, my fantastic bum, my boner, my lips, etc

upgraded from a 4850 to a 5770

tee hee hee

Try older ATI Drivers, or easier, find older OpenGL drivers and install them to HL folder. Google for the instructions. gldrv is the directory to install opengl32.dll, and there's drvmap.txt where you need to add the driver name.

is opengl just using the onboard graphics thing or something? If so then it wouldn't be able to play at 125fps to begin with let alone without lag surely?

tee hee hee

it was for £15 and it's got at least double the vram but enjoy your troll ban, gg.

HAHAHA ! , Obviously GOD HATES GAY PPL XD !!

ATI made a change to their OpenGL drivers some time ago that broke some older games. Use the google luke.

Dunno if it will fix your problem but its easy and cheap to do.

5770 on my old machine here. never any probs, not with old drivers, not with the latest.

check if its actually your cpu. go to system setting and check if energy options (or whatever it is in english) is set to high performance.

an old trick, danny pulled outta his ass

Danny's ass is massive as hell so im not surprised

is opengl just using the onboard graphics thing or something? If so then it wouldn't be able to play at 125fps to begin with let alone without lag surely?

No. It uses the GPU. There're two competing API's in 3D-rendering, DirectX by Microsoft and OpenGL which is an open standard. Their quality has gone both up and done, OpenGL used to be an underdog, then it became the leader and now its an underdog again. Modern GPU's support both.

When its using OpenGL, the game basically uses different set of functions than when using DirectX, but both use the GPU alike. For the user, the difference can be hardly be seen (alt-tabbing will act differently and some other small things). There's probably some difference in FPS, but I think OpenGL would be a winner. Most difference comes from something else.

You can choose between using DirectX, OpenGL or software rendering (usingCPU). If you pick OpenGL, it'll use the OpenGL drivers by the ATI drivers, but you can find older OpenGL drivers on the internet and install them, and I've heard that they can fix a bunch of issues because ATI broke compatibility with older games in some 10.x version of their drivers. It should be easy to test, I think Danny has a link somewhere.

Honestly though, NS is mostly capped by CPU. You should get CPU-Z and CPU-Z, and see which one is overloaded.

"upgraded from a 4850 to a 5770"
bahaha... what a downgrade.

Yea you bought slower card with dx11 support and wonder why fps dropped? Nice :D

"Try older ATI Drivers, or easier, find older OpenGL drivers and install them to HL folder. Google for the instructions. gldrv is the directory to install opengl32.dll, and there's drvmap.txt where you need to add the driver name."

Ok exactly what am I googling for here? All I can find are forum complaints about ati opengl drivers not working :(((

Ok I've found this - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/previous/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx

Is 2008 going to be old enough? It also doesn't say anything about whether or not the driver is opengl.

http://www.oldapps.com/ati.php

This seems to go older, but would they be compatible with a 5770? They also don't say anything about opengl :<

Downloaded the 2008 and thing. Asked it to uninstall the current drivers and it's now taken 10 minutes with a constantly resetting status bar. Can I safely just delete whatever folder has my graphics drivers in? Any idea where that would be :s

It would have been easier to find the OpenGL32.dll and install it into HL folder.

You should have checked a guide before installing old drivers. Basically you have to remove them, reboot, remove the old drivers from Device Manager (danny knows), reboot, install new drivers and reboot.

All official ATI drivers for your card will have both opengl and directx libraries.

I had an ATI 3850 and it ran NS smooth with 125 fps. But new ATI drivers + Win XP 64 did cost me a week trying to fix windows and the happy format/reinstall procedure. I'd also like to point out that the ATI driver killing my system was a link Danny gave me.

However, I did use OpenGL with it, no problems. It ran perfectly with the super old drivers coming with the disk of the graphics card, only the update made some....difficulties.

Never change a running system.

*edit: double post since having a whitescreen after clicking on Save, GJ jiriki

danny convinced me to give up.

By copying OpenGL32.dll from old drivers to c:\blabla\half-life\gldrv and adding "gldrv/OpenGL32.dll OpenGL Old Driver" without quotes to drvmap.txt as the only line you should be able to use OpenGL. Backup the drvmap.txt before though. You might still have to go to graphics settings in NS to change it afterwards.

That way you will avoid the shitstorm that installing old drivers can cause.

blind: my pleasure

Conclusion: NEVER USE ATI. =D

As I've got an AMD card myself, this topic interested me. I'm done changing the drivers now and it was quite easy (therefore you are obviously morons, I should add).

So step by step:

Download the Catalyst driver you want to use, e.g. from http://downloads.guru3d.com/
I've used the Catalyst 9.10 for Win7-64.

- Extract the driver using 7zip.
- Copy the file "atioglxx.dl_" from $_OUTDIR\Packages\Drivers\Display\WHATEVER_INF\WHATEVER\ to the "gldrv" folder of your Half-Life install.
- Rename it to "atioglxx.dll"
- Enter the following lines into the "drvmap.txt" (without the begin and end lines):
----- BEGIN FILE -----
Default Default
gldrv/atioglxx.dll OpenGL
------ END FILE ------

and you're done.

Let's see if this will make a difference for me in the next gathers (I had some flickering issues when dying with the newer Catalysts).

You bought ATI?

gowno

Ati Radeon x1950 GT here, everything works perfectly. I wanted PRO version but I didn't tell them that I'm Legend JarO

Actually, I got it from AMD for free, as well as my CPU. Being a registered reseller rocks sometimes ;)

you guys realize this "fix" is a complete placebo right

the fact that acidic can still run NS at all after doing what he did is proof, considering the .dl_ is actually an unexpanded .dll and thus completely unusable

if you want more proof, just delete everything in the gldrv folder and it'll regenerate the files when you play

and yes I know it's been months since the last post in this thread

u r st00pid braw

you guys realize this "fix" is a complete placebo right

the fact that acidic can still run NS at all after doing what he did is proof, considering the .dl_ is actually an unexpanded .dll and thus completely unusable

if you want more proof, just delete everything in the gldrv folder and it'll regenerate the files when you play

it's been months since the last post in this thread

Dugi posted on 27 January 2012 at 08:10. What month is it?

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