BAN for retarded reason in Gather

izO
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#1
I want a detailed reason why i was banned and not cr4zY since he replaced a new player that has no comp expirience with Maxamus which was one of the best players in the gather
i had 3 pub players in my team while cr4zY had 2 from start and replaced one of them with Maxamus
do i understand you (Yalzuan) so its fine to make inbalanced Stomp teams like this while there is 4 specs and players in the next gather waiting what kind of shit shall that be? since we asked for shuffle some player on server or regather... they didnt want to make any fair team and nether regather so i left and said regather it.... How much fun is it supposed to be for anyone ? (i was not alone in my team to say it)
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#2
IF a new player can play as a merc and actually wants to play. And cr4zy followed the rules accordingly so why should he get banned? I dont know the reason for your ban but it sounds like you left the gather without finding yourself an replacement

Just noticed that i read it wrong. But shouldnt the merc be equal skill for the replacement? Like officials?

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#3
This shouldn't be bannable.
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#4
If the merc is obviously unfair do a trade or regather.

This happened before. A moderator stepped in and forced a trade because 1 team would not start.

But if no moderator is there, the whole team would need to agree to wait for a trade or regather. Why would you be the only person to leave if the rest of your team thought it was unfair too?
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#5
So another player got banned for not wanting to play stacked gather, getting an uneven merc for last pick is nothing new. It always should be regather when there is a merc thats much better. Izo shouldnt get banned but the player that got the merc and the merc that accepted to play in place of last pick, then we might have even gathers.
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#6
A regather will bring people in that are waiting for the next gather instead of the 11 other people that have been waiting for this 1 guy....

so if a regather would have these 11 people +1 that would be good but not 5-7 from the old gather and 7-5 new people.

So since the gather page is still being worked on this problem the best solution is just to pick the FIRST JOINER of the next gather and then repick with him and the page open with all the other 11 people from the last gather. per Teamspeak.
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#7
It's really easy, if the teams are unfair after a merc then ask to swap a player.
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#8
We replaced a last pick newish commander, With a commander that hadn't commed in years.

I don't know m8, it didn't seem unfair.
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#9
Knox says
This happened before. A moderator stepped in and forced a trade because 1 team would not start.


who was that moderator again? lessthantrhee
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#10
We replaced a last pick newish commander, With a commander that hadn't commed in years.

I don't know m8, it didn't seem unfair.


you replaced Tortilla Crisp which comes from the newcomer tournement with Maxamus
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#11
Mega_noComm says

So since the gather page is still being worked on this problem the best solution is just to pick the FIRST JOINER of the next gather and then repick with him and the page open with all the other 11 people from the last gather. per Teamspeak.

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#12
since we asked them to shuffle some player and they denied there was no other option than Regather.

I still wait for Yaluzans reasoning why he banned me and who reported me
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#13
First, since cr4zy is banned from commenting he asked me to post this in his stead:
Cr4zy says
I picked two "new" players both of them were listed as a commander. As such one of them was probably going to command, the one that did show said he would command, not a problem, one "new" player on the field, one as comm.
However, the then field player didn't show, as such we searched for a merc, out of all the specs and people in the next gather one was available, maxamus, I didn't want to put max on the field to imbalance the teams and asked if he would command, he agreed and as such I kept my "new" player on the field.

At this point you complained this was somehow unfair, you didn't ask for us to balance the teams in anyway, as the picks for field hadn't changed, if you thought replacing a comm with a comm(who doesnt even comm) is going to break the balance im not sure what you expected in the first place.

So after just asking to re-gather and then starting because no one on my team wanted to [regather], we got our merc, you readied up and began. At which point, you clearly gave up, rushed straight to our base and got killed, you instantly gg'd and quit the server.

1. When you join a gather, show up and play until the end.
Ban - Min: 1 day ; Max: 1

You broke this rule with no intention of returning and didn't find a merc. Effectively killing the gather and forcing us to re-gather because no other merc could be found. The rules state at that point people can leave without consequence.

This is not the first time you've left a gather because you've complained about the skill of a merc, I've been told of two other recent occasions, even though those times have been perfectly acceptable mercs, this is a gather - not officials, the skill is less important than just getting a player and playing so everyone can have fun.


Furthermore.
I have already had several complaints about your actions during gathers including several issues about you "troll picking". I fully support the decision that was made.

And its only a 1 day ban....
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#14
i never did troll picking and you are super naive if u believe it!
Why would ppl vote me to be captain every time then???????? bring out the names and ask all players

in What gathers i did troll pick??? where is the evidence

why didnt u ask the players that where in my Team about what happend but the guy that took the Carrymerc without to be willed to swap a player or repick ?????


Also we did ask you (cr4zY) to balance the teams and we ask for it on the Server itself!

im so sick of this shit last picks gonna be trade for first picks it happens so often and nobody of the winner team obviously cares.... so because i speak up against it im the bad person??


SO SHOW ME WHERE I TROLL PICKED U GOT THE HISTORY FILES U GOT THE SERVER LOGS SHOW THEM AND PROOF U DONT JUST BELIEVE TO WRONG PPL AND WILD STORYS DO IT AND DO URSELF A FAVOR
I PROMISE U DO SILLY DECISIONS BASED ON BS


ALSO i believe cr4zY does this because of personal Revange since i called him a Backboneless person with doublestandarts like he Flamed days on hypies new "spookerz" he said they are stackers and destroy the league with building op teams and he would hate such stuff "it would be rediclous n retarded tryhards". 2 days later he joined them because Hypie asked him to follow so he OBVIOUSLY followed her as usal and i blamed him because of that. now he tries to be superior and screams for Ban. GJ.
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#15
I picked two "new" players both of them were listed as a commander. As such one of them was probably going to command, the one that did show said he would command, not a problem, one "new" player on the field, one as comm.
However, the then field player didn't show, as such we searched for a merc, out of all the specs and people in the next gather one was available, maxamus, I didn't want to put max on the field to imbalance the teams and asked if he would command, he agreed and as such I kept my "new" player on the field.


You replaced a Not-Comm Non-competetive player with a Div2 player that has expirience in Comming.

At this point you complained this was somehow unfair, you didn't ask for us to balance the teams in anyway, as the picks for field hadn't changed, if you thought replacing a comm with a comm(who doesnt even comm) is going to break the balance im not sure what you expected in the first place.


We asked on the server to Shuffle some players or simply regather.

So after just asking to re-gather and then starting because no one on my team wanted to [regather], we got our merc, you readied up and began. At which point, you clearly gave up, rushed straight to our base and got killed, you instantly gg'd and quit the server.


One of my players rdy up and we crushed some marines in ore but i said Fk this game, we didnt die like u pretend here. i canceld the game after SECONDS even though we won the engagement and i rdy up and left with the words Regather.

You broke this rule with no intention of returning and didn't find a merc. Effectively killing the gather and forcing us to re-gather because no other merc could be found. The rules state at that point people can leave without consequence.


Effectively killing gathers is building up ur retard stomp team against Newcomers and pubbers.

This is not the first time you've left a gather because you've complained about the skill of a merc, I've been told of two other recent occasions, even though those times have been perfectly acceptable mercs, this is a gather - not officials, the skill is less important than just getting a player and playing so everyone can have fun.


Upload/Post the screen or bring the evidence on another way this is just your way of Revange! also i will not accept replace last picks for first picks this is super retarded and destroys the game for everybody even the winner team though
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#17
izo has left gathers because he just doesnt want to play a said game for varying reasons. Ask izos team in that gather and if they agree with crazy there is no doubt. With the info given of the situation I personally having experienced many unfair mercs in gathers can't think of this being one of them.

It is only a 1day ban so no major protest needed imo.
gg
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#18
Paskie says

It is only a 1day ban so no major protest needed imo.


I wish more people understood this, Paskie. its a 1 day ban. Do something else for a night, like going out and watching a movie :)
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#19
Dude u are banning for no reason and u say its legit because the ban has a time limit? even 1 houer would be to much ... then u even smile here? so the whole context was pass away from u it seems
what kind of admin are you?

go on and clear it talk about facts and dont pretend its about the actull ban time... its about reasons!

and i tell u, ur only reason is because cr4zy was post u that bs. and u believe it blind... how does it come u are not argu with him about it how does it come u stop to talk about the topic now... just ignore it until ppl forget? cover up about ur shoddy quality investigation about that case? Why not ask x_O or others that were in my team???


You blamed me for Troll picking, For leaving gathers and other bs and u say watch a movie ?
(your team name says it all)
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#20
so????????

Have u done a bad decision?
Cant u admit it?
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#21
well im glad u at least admit to relay on Paskies opinion
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#22
Well, anyway

3. If you cannot play, get a substitute.

it works regardless of the reason why you left, isn't it? (even if someone else violated the rules in your opinion)
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#23
Since SOME PEOPLE are REPEAT OFFENDERS they should honestly receive bans longer than just a day.......
No matter how much they complain, just crying on the forums should NOT help them in ANY WAY, unless there are other people who can defend them objectively.
Anyway, it's really annoying to see izo banned for the 4th time - WITH A 1 DAY BAN - in the past few months. He wastes the time of 11 other people when he does this, and all he gets punished with is a SINGLE DAY of not playing gathers.

And I'm not even trolling, this is actually really depressing to see.

+1 for harsher bans, #bringbacksimple if necessary
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